29 October 2004

Job Hunting 101: Some Insights

My FIRST job interview in the Netherlands was quite interesting, that is, if you can even call it an interview. To begin with, I did not even apply for a specific position. I was just exploring possibilities. A month ago, an ex-colleague of mine sent me an email about a conference she attended in London. I just read the report last week, only to realized that attached to it was a list of organizations (with contact persons) in Europe. Since I haven’t started the actual job hunting (just building my database), I decided to try and email one of the organizations based in the Netherlands-- explaining my situation, what I’m looking for, and likewise attaching my CV. After a day, I was pleasantly surprised that the contact person responded: “I would like to meet you and see if I have any good position for you”. Admittedly, I was a bit confused about the word “good”. I mean what is a good position anyway? So the interview was set last Wednesday. To cut it short, I did NOT get a job offer. Surprisingly, I was not disappointed, in fact even quite hopeful. I realized that such a short meeting (an hour) can lead to many possibilities that I didn’t even know existed. The lady (who is Dutch) was more than helpful, if not even encouraging. She intially suggested a short-term job (six months) as they need to fill in a particular position, immediately (as in now). We discussed about my residency status and concluded that the short-term job is not a possibility . From then on, our discussion led to the field/industry that I am interested to pursue. She gave so many inputs about the industry, who are the players, and what other possibilities I can explore. At one point, I asked her if the language will be a hindrance to finding work in my field. She responded that my problem in fact is I won’t be able to practice my Dutch if I work for an international organization like theirs. Upon opening my email that night, I saw that the lady already sent me an email! I was just going to write her the usual “post-interview thank you” email. I realized the Dutch lady's offer of help was genuine: 1) i got an invitation to a conference; 2) she offered to introduce me to some people during the conference; 3) sent me 2 names for me to contact for possible networking; and 4) she mentioned about possible opportunities for the project next year. At the end of the lady’s email, she said something that made me feel very good. For the FIRST time since I moved to the Netherlands, I really believed that perhaps I will eventually find my own SIGNIFICANCE in this country (yes, I can be a productive immigrant!). For the first time, I also saw a completely different face of the Dutch, who are commonly perceived as cold and indifferent. For the first time, I felt that SOMEONE in this country (besides my Dutch family and friends) is particularly interested in what I am capable of doing, and believing that my work experience can contribute something to the Dutch society. I have been LOOONGING for this kind of validation since I moved here! Although I didn't get a job, the interview was a learning and uplifting experience. I am glad to be in touch with the industry again, and it also helped boost my confidence to go around on my own (with my limited Dutch), beyond the areas that I am familiar with (the interview was in another city and the office was outside the centrum). Let’s be realistic, I know job hunting is like a roller coaster ride. I am even a bit rustic since I haven't been job hunting for quite some time. I don’t expect that all my interviews will end up as pleasant experiences. However, I just want to remain positive...I want to convince myself that there are reasons to hope and believe that I will find something in due time (perhaps after my 99th job interview!!)

4 comments:

ting-aling said...

Sari, I felt the same thing. Fortunately, for me I got the job I wanted at the flick of a finger..just like that (lucky..huh). It's been tough for some..a classmate has been working as cashier when we basically have the same background..same school..same everything (including being wife and mom). My biggest fear now is if I lose this job, will I get a job as good as this..things have changed of course..age, more competition, etc. Also, I just noticed that whites are really picky sometimes. I just happened to have a non-dicriminatory white boss.

Good luck. I just know you will stand the times beautifully..I can see it in your thoughts...have fun job hunting and take it easy too.

Sari-Sari Winkel said...

Ting-Aling, I hope I will have the same luck as you had:-) Looking back, I have always been quite lucky so far to get the jobs that I wanted...hopefully this will be the same here in Holland. Networking always helps. Thanks for the nice wishes.

Jo Travels said...

Hi sari, i bumped into your site through someone elses site (i already forgo which one!). Like u i live in NL (utrecht where ur interview was!). I have been here for 2 years already. Believe me my 1st year was full of frustrations (health, language and job search).

I also think that because holland is a non-english speaking country coupled with the stereotype that the dutch are straightforward (in other terms rude) and cold plus the anti-immigrants sentiments currently hitting the media and society (hear: turks and moroccans), then us colored immgirants feel a little bit unsure on how we are perceived and accepted in the society, more so in the job-professional field.

I personally think that going in there, in the job hunting race and being active with it is the answer. I too had the same apprehensions but surprisingly enough i was treated OK during interviews and in fact went on to the next level of interviews, some of it i was almost hired but last year the job market (in IT) was terrible and i was a victim of "freeze hiring". Since my job experience is in IT sales/marketing then the dutch language (or any other european language) is very important, almost in fact a demand in their qualifications.

Took me 9 months to get a job coz i was not willing to settle for less. Well during that 9 months i was also busy with dutch school and my papers. Its easy to get a job but these jobs are not what you would want, they are the: laag niveau banen, which i promised myself not to even entertain unless it has been 2 years that i have been non-stop searching. I have been now working for the same company for a year and i can honestly say i am integrated in the netherlands, gewoontes et al, haha.

You can do it too. You have the right education, experience, support and attitude. Just press on, your time will come. You´re just barely here!

By the way, 1 hour interview is normal for first time interviews. The 2nd and 3rd interviews are much longer and the dutch style is they do it like a board room-panel interview (meaning 2 to 3 people grilling you). The dutch polder model is very much alive here.

MissT-Dutched Pinay

Sari-Sari Winkel said...

Miss T, it is inspiring to know that there is a pinay who managed to make it here! Minister Verdonk will be proud of her program since you have integrated successfully...he..he..he...Seriously, I am just looking forward to the day when I can say that I am finally well integrated and accepted(?) in this society. Kelan kaya yon? Sigh. I agree with you, it has been a struggle the last few months, the future seems very uncertain...The most difficult is waiting for the papers--I can't even start my inburgering course...very frustrating talaga!! So much unproductive hours and time wasted. This is why I decided to start networking for jobs. Thanks for sharing your experiences (it definitely helps newcomers like me) and thanks for dropping by too.